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Heat current and fluctuations between a dissipative qubit and a monitor under continuous measurement and feedback
by Tsuyoshi Yamamoto, Yasuhiro Tokura
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Authors (as registered SciPost users): | Tsuyoshi Yamamoto |
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Preprint Link: | https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.09452v1 (pdf) |
Date submitted: | 2024-09-26 02:11 |
Submitted by: | Yamamoto, Tsuyoshi |
Submitted to: | SciPost Physics |
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Academic field: | Physics |
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Approach: | Theoretical |
Abstract
Continuous quantum measurement and feedback induce heat exchange between a dissipative qubit and a monitor even in the steady state, as a measurement backaction. Using the Lindblad equation, we identified the maximum and minimum values of the steady-state heat current as the measurement and feedback states vary, and we demonstrate the qubit cooling induced by these processes. Turning our attention to quantum trajectories under continuous measurement and feedback, we observe that the heat current fluctuates around the steady-state values. We reveal that the fluctuations are strongly influenced by the measurement backaction, distinguishing them from the standard Poisson noise typically observed in electric circuits. Our results offer potential application in the development of quantum refrigerators controlled by continuous measurement and feedback, and provide deep insight into quantum thermodynamics from the perspective of fluctuation.
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- Provide a novel and synergetic link between different research areas.
- Open a new pathway in an existing or a new research direction, with clear potential for multi-pronged follow-up work
- Detail a groundbreaking theoretical/experimental/computational discovery
- Present a breakthrough on a previously-identified and long-standing research stumbling block
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Strengths
Clearly written.
Weaknesses
- The interplay in the quantum dynamics between the thermal bath and the measurement and feedback schemes in not deeply investigated.
- Comparison with existing literature on Zeno effects and effects of the measurements and backaction is not sufficient.
- It is not clear whether the authors think it's interesting to investigate the presence of multiple thermal baths or a unique thermal bath.
- The authors only investigates the energy change between qubit and measurement apparatus, naming it a heat flow. However, it is clear from existing literature that the nature of energy change with a measurement apparatus can not be identified as work or heat without a microscopic model of the measurement apparatus. I would therefore ask the authors to modify their labelling, discussing energy change rather than heat current.
- In contrast, the heat current with the thermal bath would be interesting to investigate, in particular the role of temperature and the role of its coupling, affecting \tau_r briefly discussed towards the end of the manuscript.
- Discussion about the noise is not precise enough (especially concerning Poissonian noise in electrical circuits, and effects of these fluctuations onto the cooling of the qubit for instance)
Report
The authors invetsigate a qubit, coupled to thermal baths, and subject to a measurement and feedback scheme within a master equation approach. They take into account the measurment and feedback schemes through operators entering a quantum channel. characterized by 4 parameters (angles of rotations for representing unitary operations in a Bloch sphere ). They investigate energy exchanges between the qubit and the measurement apparatus, as a function the parameters of teh measurement and feedback. This situation is of interest within the context of quantum thermodynamics and for designing efficient quantum thermal machines. However, ther are important situations and interplay which are not investigated in the present manuscript, which make its interest for the community rather low. I would suggest the following changes to be considered as a suitable manuscript for being published:
- In the present version, the effect of the thermal bath or of multiple thermal baths is not well investigated. In general, we would expect an interplay / a competition between dissipation to thermal bath and effect of the measurement and feedback. It seems that the authors assume a much weaker coupling to the thermal bath, such that it does not really affect the dynamics of the qubit. However, this situation then boils down to a single qubit, subject to measurement and feedback, for which an extensive literature exists. We expect the coupling to the thermal bath and temperature of the bath to play a role in the dynamics.
- As already mentioned among the weaknesses, the authors name the energy exchanges with the measurement apparatus "heat current". The exact nature of these energy exchanges (heat or work) can only be understood with a microscopic model of the measurement apparatus. Otherwise, I would advise the authors to use "energy exchanges". Another option, which the authors can discuss, goes in the direction of the works discussing quantum heat. Again, if this is a choice the authors would like to make, references with respect to existing literature must be discussed.
- Given the presence of the thermal baths, it would be interesting to investigate the heat current to these reservoirs, with respect to energy exchanges with the measurement apparatus. How do these two types of energy exchanges affect the efficiency of this system as fridge? What is then the advantage of feedback? of the measurement? All these questions can nicely be investigated with the concept and tools that the authors introduce in this work.
- To my opinion, the formulation of the authors concerning bounds for the current is a bit misleading. Indeed, in the quantum thermodynamic community, there is presently a lots of interest to investigate and derive uncertainty relations which would provide insights on the sensitivity of a quantum device. To this end, researchers try to derive novel and interesting bounds. In this work, I would rather say that the authors investigate several limiting cases corresponding to specific values of their parameters for measurements and feedback. I find their discussion on the values of the current a bit weak, but this could easily be changed by adding a thorough comparison with the heat current to the thermal bath for these different limiting cases.
- A similar comment holds for the fluctuations. While investigating these quantities can indeed bring additional fundamental insights, this work remains at a rather superficial level. Also related to a previous comment, it is hard to understand how to consider these fluctuations. Indeed, as we do not know the nature of the energy exchange with the measurement apparatus, what is the nature of these fluctuations? Work fluctuations? Heat fluctuations? How do they relate to the amount of information acquired by the detector? How do they relate to the cooling mode of this device and its efficiency?
Overall, the setup of interest in this work deserves detailed investigation, and I agree with the authors that it could bring interesting insights to the community. However, as such, it is lacking several aspects which appear important to contribute to the field. I could recommend this paper with extensive modification and addition of results.
Recommendation
Ask for major revision
Report
The authors investigate heat current and fluctuations in a problem where a qubit is coupled to reservoirs and is also monitored by continuous
measurement and feedback.
The problem is timely and the results are interesting. I can recommend the article for publication after the authors address the following points:
1. Presentation of the model: Several reservoirs are indicated in Fig.1 and in section 2.1. However, nothing is mentioned afterwards about the
role of them. Do they have the same temperature? Since the results focus on a single bath, the authors should mention that.
2. In Fig. 2 the authors describe m and n as monitor and feedback states, respectively. It would be useful if this is also mentioned in Section 3.1.
3. Even more important, the results depend on the temperature of the thermal bath. I think that the authors can further stress this point. In Fig.2, no
Information is provided on the temperature of the bath.
4. In Section 3.3 they conclude that the temperature of the thermal bath affects the condition of zero current between the qubit and the monitor, but
nothing is said about the current between the qubit and the bath. Is the qubit thermalized with this bath or is there heat flowing through
qubit between the monitor and the thermal bath?
5. In section 4 I do not find the explicit definition of J_c(t). In the discussion of the results, it would be nice to find some discussion on how the features
of the Poisson noise and backaction noise are related to the behavior of the heat current discussed in fig. 2.
Recommendation
Ask for major revision
Strengths
- Addresses a timely topic of interest in quantum thermodynamics.
- Goes beyond a description in terms of average quantities by considering the heat current fluctuations.
Weaknesses
- Only the steady-state configuration is addressed, while a previous study by the authors on a similar system also considered the transient dynamics.
Report
The authors study a dissipative qubit in the presence of continuous measurement and feedback by a monitoring system, extending a previous study by the same authors (Ref. [42]), where only the measurement process was included.
They employ a master equation approach to obtain the steady-state heat exchange between qubit and monitor. They assume that the qubit is coupled to a collection of bosonic baths, that are treated as an Ohmic environment. The analysis is complemented by a quantum trajectory analysis allowing them to study the stochastic evolution of the monitored qubit.
The key results are:
- the simultaneous presence of measurement and feedback allows to selectively heat or cool the qubit;
- the measurement-induced backaction produces fluctuations in the heat current that deviate from the Poissonian limit, and the system is often found in the sub-Poissonian regime.
I believe this work is of good quality and deserves publication. However, I am not confident that publication in SciPost Physics is appropriate, as the journal's acceptance criteria are not met in my opinion. Specifically, the authors indicate that their work provides a novel and synergetic link between different research areas, but I fail to see that this is the case.
To my understanding, the only connection mentioned by the authors with a different research field (other than quantum thermodynamics/energetics) is with electronic transport. This connection is in my opinion rather faint: it is indeed based on the analysis of the Fano factor - which is also used in electronic transport - but I do not think that this fact by itself constitutes a novel and synergetic link between different research areas.
Instead, I believe this works meets the acceptance criteria of SciPost Physics Core and therefore recommend publication in that journal.
Requested changes
1. There is a slightly misleading statement about the Poissonian noise in electronic transport (in the introduction and below equation 19). Noninteracting electrons in a nanowire exhibit Poissonian noise in the weak transmission limit only. Otherwise, the noise obeys a well-known $T(1-T)$ behavior (where $T$ is the nanowire transmission), while the current is just proportional to $T$. Consequently, there can be deviation from the Poissonian noise limit. I suggest that the authors correct the statements by explicitly indicating that the Poissonian regime in electric transport is fulfilled at weak transmission.
2. The following sentence in the introduction is unclear. "By considering continuous quantum measurement and feedback, we can address the steady-state properties of the heat exchange, it’s a steady-state heat current, when accounting for dissipation, which is inevitable but ubiquitous in nature.". I would suggest to reformulate it.
3. The authors state that their model can find application as a measurement/feedback-based quantum refrigerator. Given that they have already calculated the heat fluctuations, could they also provide the efficiency of the cooling process and compare it with standard performance quantifiers, such as the thermodynamic uncertainty relation?
4. I would like to encourage the authors to upload the data for the trajectory simulations to an established data repository (e.g., Zenodo), to facilitate the validation and reproducibility of their analysis.
5. Grammar can be improved. For instance:
- page 4: "the steady-state heat current holds the following inequality" $\to$ "fulfils/satisfies the following inequality";
- page 5: "the measurement to the ground state and the feedback to the excited state" $\to$ "the measurement projects the system in the ground state..."?;
- page 5: "the qubit energy is heated by the measurement" $\to$ either "the qubit is heated" or "the qubit energy is increased";
- caption of Fig. 2: "the heat current never takes negative" $\to$ "never takes negative values";
- page 7: "the correlation function is decomposed of the delta function... and the time non-local correlator" $\to$ "is decomposed in a delta function... and a time non-local correlator";
- page 9: "the heat change by the quantum jump and the excess heat are opposite signs" $\to$ "... are of opposite signs" or "have opposite signs";
- Page 11: "It shows zero at four points" $\to$ "it vanishes at four points" or "it crosses zero at four points" or simply "it is zero at four points".
Recommendation
Accept in alternative Journal (see Report)
Author: Tsuyoshi Yamamoto on 2024-12-09 [id 5029]
(in reply to Report 1 on 2024-11-13)
Reply to Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1)
We have submitted the revised version of our manuscript to arXiv as version 2. It will be published soon.
Strengths - Addresses a timely topic of interest in quantum thermodynamics. - Goes beyond a description in terms of average quantities by considering the heat current fluctuations. Weaknesses - Only the steady-state configuration is addressed, while a previous study by the authors on a similar system also considered the transient dynamics.
We thank Referee 1 for recognizing the strength of our manuscript. As Referee 2 also reported, our work is timely topic in quantum thermodynamics. Additionally, we spotlighted the heat current fluctuations due to quantum measurement. This work focuses on the steady-state heat current because the statistics arising from quantum measurement is the main topic. However, when considering the backaction noise S_1, the transient dynamics is accounted for through the excess heat Q_ex, which was also introduced in our previous work [42] to discuss the transient dynamics. We have added a comment regarding this below Eq. (24). In the first part of our manuscript, we derived the maximum and minimum values of the steady-state heat current. As our previous work [42], heat current can exceed these steady-state bounds in the transient regime, reaching +(-)gamma Delta as the maximum and minimum values. The heat current achieves the maximum (minimum) value when |m>=|g (e)>, |n>=|e (g)>, and the qubit is in a pure state rho=|g (e)><g (e)|. Therefore, the maximum or minimum heat current occurs only when the qubit is prepared in a pure state. Subsequently, the heat current relaxes to the steady-state value, as our previous work [42]. We have added the discussion in the revised version at the end of Section 3.1.
Report The authors study a dissipative qubit in the presence of continuous measurement and feedback by a monitoring system, extending a previous study by the same authors (Ref. [42]), where only the measurement process was included. They employ a master equation approach to obtain the steady-state heat exchange between qubit and monitor. They assume that the qubit is coupled to a collection of bosonic baths, that are treated as an Ohmic environment. The analysis is complemented by a quantum trajectory analysis allowing them to study the stochastic evolution of the monitored qubit. The key results are: - the simultaneous presence of measurement and feedback allows to selectively heat or cool the qubit; - the measurement-induced backaction produces fluctuations in the heat current that deviate from the Poissonian limit, and the system is often found in the sub-Poissonian regime. I believe this work is of good quality and deserves publication. However, I am not confident that publication in SciPost Physics is appropriate, as the journal's acceptance criteria are not met in my opinion. Specifically, the authors indicate that their work provides a novel and synergetic link between different research areas, but I fail to see that this is the case. To my understanding, the only connection mentioned by the authors with a different research field (other than quantum thermodynamics/energetics) is with electronic transport. This connection is in my opinion rather faint: it is indeed based on the analysis of the Fano factor - which is also used in electronic transport - but I do not think that this fact by itself constitutes a novel and synergetic link between different research areas. Instead, I believe this works meets the acceptance criteria of SciPost Physics Core and therefore recommend publication in that journal.
We appreciate the thorough review and the comment about the publication; “I believe this work is of good quality and deserves publication”. Referee 2 pointed out a poor presentation of the connection with different research fields. The current noise has provided new perspectives in mesoscopic transport beyond the mean current, as mentioned “The noise is the signal” by Rolf Landauer. On the other hand, while quantum measurement can induce the current noise, its property remains largely unexplored. In this work, we made a first attempt to investigate the differences between the electronic current in a low-transmission nanowire and the heat current induced by continuous measurement. Our result shows that the statistics induced by continuous measurement follows sub-Poissonian. This arises from the fact that the probability of a quantum jump depends on the qubit state, making the quantum jump not completely random. Similarly, for the electronic current, the sub-Poissonian statistics emerge when electrons do not flow completely randomly, as influenced by the Pauli exclusion principle and the Coulomb interactions. Consequently, we identified a link between mesoscopic physics (correlated electrons) and quantum measurement from the perspective of the current noise. We have added the discussion in Section 4.3. We also stress the feasibility of our setup. Recently, heat current has been measured precisely in superconducting circuits using methods developed in mesoscopic physics. By monitoring the temperature of the heat bath, we can access quantum heat directly. A comment has been added to the summary.
Requested changes
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There is a slightly misleading statement about the Poissonian noise in electronic transport (in the introduction and below equation 19). Noninteracting electrons in a nanowire exhibit Poissonian noise in the weak transmission limit only. Otherwise, the noise obeys a well-known T(1−T) behavior (where T is the nanowire transmission), while the current is just proportional to T. Consequently, there can be deviation from the Poissonian noise limit. I suggest that the authors correct the statements by explicitly indicating that the Poissonian regime in electric transport is fulfilled at weak transmission.
As Referee 1 pointed out, the explanation of Poisson noise in electronic transport was insufficient. We have revised it in the introduction and in the discussion below Eq. (21).
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The following sentence in the introduction is unclear. "By considering continuous quantum measurement and feedback, we can address the steady-state properties of the heat exchange, it’s a steady-state heat current, when accounting for dissipation, which is inevitable but ubiquitous in nature.". I would suggest to reformulate it.
We have revised the sentence to make it clear as follows; “Most studies on quantum measurement have been conducted in the context of ideal systems without dissipation. It is crucial to take dissipation into account not only because of its ubiquity in nature but also due to its qualitative effects on heat exchange. This consideration enables us to address steady-state properties of heat exchange under continuous quantum measurement and feedback, as measurement and feedback alone induce no heat exchange in the steady-state limit.”
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The authors state that their model can find application as a measurement/feedback-based quantum refrigerator. Given that they have already calculated the heat fluctuations, could they also provide the efficiency of the cooling process and compare it with standard performance quantifiers, such as the thermodynamic uncertainty relation?
The cooling of the qubit via quantum measurement and feedback can induce quantum measurement cooling, where energy is extracted from the colder heat bath into the quantum system due to quantum measurement. We confirmed that the quantum measurement cooling occurs by calculating the heat current flowing from the cold heat bath to the qubit for the case of two heat baths, r=c, h. We have added the discussion about the quantum measurement cooling and its efficiency, the coefficient of performance (COP), in the newly added Section 3.4. As Referee 1 pointed out, given the mean and variance of the heat current and the entropy production, we might bound the efficiency of the quantum measurement cooling. However, the variance pertains to the heat current from the cold heat bath, not the heat current between the qubit and the monitor, which is focus of this work. While it would indeed be interesting to discuss the efficiency bound of the quantum measurement cooling using the thermodynamic uncertainty relation, this is beyond the scope of the present work.
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I would like to encourage the authors to upload the data for the trajectory simulations to an established data repository (e.g., Zenodo), to facilitate the validation and reproducibility of their analysis.
We have uploaded the numerical data on quantum trajectories used in Figs. 4, 5, and 7, to Zenodo. The DOI is 10.5281/zenodo.14252485.
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Grammar can be improved. For instance: -page 4: "the steady-state heat current holds the following inequality" → "fulfils/satisfies the following inequality"; -page 5: "the measurement to the ground state and the feedback to the excited state" → "the measurement projects the system in the ground state..."?; -page 5: "the qubit energy is heated by the measurement" → either "the qubit is heated" or "the qubit energy is increased"; -caption of Fig. 2: "the heat current never takes negative" → "never takes negative values"; -page 7: "the correlation function is decomposed of the delta function... and the time non-local correlator" → "is decomposed in a delta function... and a time non-local correlator"; -page 9: "the heat change by the quantum jump and the excess heat are opposite signs" → "... are of opposite signs" or "have opposite signs"; -Page 11: "It shows zero at four points" → "it vanishes at four points" or "it crosses zero at four points" or simply "it is zero at four points".
We thank Referee 1 for highlighting the grammatical issues. We have addressed all the points raised.
Recommendation Accept in alternative Journal (see Report)
Validity: High Significance: Good Originality: Good Clarity: High Formatting: Excellent Grammar: Reasonable
We have replied to all the comments and continue to believe that our work is suitable for publication in SciPost Physics. In the revised version of our manuscript, we have incorporated discussions and comments in accordance with the suggestions of Referee 1.
Author: Tsuyoshi Yamamoto on 2024-12-09 [id 5028]
(in reply to Report 2 on 2024-11-17)Reply to Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2)
Report The authors investigate heat current and fluctuations in a problem where a qubit is coupled to reservoirs and is also monitored by continuous measurement and feedback. The problem is timely and the results are interesting. I can recommend the article for publication after the authors address the following points:
Presentation of the model: Several reservoirs are indicated in Fig.1 and in section 2.1. However, nothing is mentioned afterwards about the role of them. Do they have the same temperature? Since the results focus on a single bath, the authors should mention that.
In Fig. 2 the authors describe m and n as monitor and feedback states, respectively. It would be useful if this is also mentioned in Section 3.1.
Even more important, the results depend on the temperature of the thermal bath. I think that the authors can further stress this point. In Fig.2, no Information is provided on the temperature of the bath.
In Section 3.3 they conclude that the temperature of the thermal bath affects the condition of zero current between the qubit and the monitor, but nothing is said about the current between the qubit and the bath. Is the qubit thermalized with this bath or is there heat flowing through qubit between the monitor and the thermal bath?
In section 4 I do not find the explicit definition of J_c(t). In the discussion of the results, it would be nice to find some discussion on how the features of the Poisson noise and backaction noise are related to the behavior of the heat current discussed in fig. 2.
Recommendation Ask for major revision