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A panoply of Schwinger-Keldysh transport
by Kristan Jensen, Raja Marjieh, Natalia Pinzani-Fokeeva, Amos Yarom
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Authors (as registered SciPost users): | Kristan Jensen · Amos Yarom |
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Preprint Link: | https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.04654v2 (pdf) |
Date submitted: | July 6, 2018, 2 a.m. |
Submitted by: | Jensen, Kristan |
Submitted to: | SciPost Physics |
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Academic field: | Physics |
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Approach: | Theoretical |
Abstract
We classify all possible allowed constitutive relations of relativistic fluids in a statistical mechanical limit using the Schwinger-Keldysh effective action for hydrodynamics. We find that microscopic unitarity enforces genuinely new constraints on the allowed transport coefficients that are invisible in the classical hydrodynamic description; they are not implied by the second law or the Onsager relations. We term these conditions Schwinger-Keldysh positivity and provide explicit examples of the various allowed terms.
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Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2018-10-22 (Invited Report)
- Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:1804.04654v2, delivered 2018-10-22, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.619
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One might wonder though whether the Schwinger-Keldysh positivity condition can ultimately be re-formulated in terms of the usual on-shell phenomenological approach. (After all, this is possible for the existing constraints from CPT invariance and entropy production.) While indeed it seems unlikely this can be done, it would nevertheless be very attractive to have a more elementary (if less systematic) approach.
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The new constraints derive from unitarity in the form of the Schwinger-Keldysh positivity condition on the effective action first identified in [14,25]. Here, the authors show that positivity of the entropy production is a necessary but not sufficient condition for Schwinger-Keldysh positivity: that there are specific classes of transport coefficients for which the entropy production vanishes and Schwinger-Keldysh positivity must be separately imposed. In the process, the authors introduce an attractive classification scheme broadly similar to that of [26,27] based on whether the transport coefficients are (a) associated with entropy production, (b) are constrained by Schwinger-Keldysh positivity, (c) their parity under KMS symmetry, and (d) the (anti)symmetry of their tensorial index structure. This scheme is summarised in table 2 on page 76.
Overall, identifying Schwinger-Keldysh positivity as a source of new constraints on transport coefficients appears to be a significant original result, especially given the long history of the hydrodynamics. It also raises very interesting questions: in particular, whether this condition has a geometrical holographic interpretation in the same way that positivity of the fluid entropy production is tied to the area increase of the bulk black hole. I recommend this impressive work for publication.
Requested changes
Table 2 and the summary of the classification scheme in section 8.1 are very helpful in orienting the reader, and many might benefit from skimming this material prior to tackling the main text. Perhaps this material should be more strongly advertised in the last paragraph of the introduction?
The second sentence of section 6.2.4 is rather confusing: it seems the aim is to explain the difference between the pseudo-dissipative and exceptional terms, however the justification given in brackets is the same in both cases. In the main classification, the distinction between these classes derives from their KMS parity and the σ-symmetry of the index structure.
In the final paragraph of p76 and the first of page 77, the references to the columns in table 2 are mislabelled: the initial reference to the second column is correct, then all the following column references need to be incremented by one (second->third, etc).
Some typos:
p 50, penultimate line: "various transport into scalar terms" -> "transport coefficients" (?)
Second line of section 7: "we consider two more complicated examples" -> omitting the hyphen here leads to a possibly unintended misreading!
Below (7.10): "allow one" -> "allows one"
Eq (7.78a): a stray comma in penultimate line?
Table 2 caption: missing period at end.
p76 last para: "time the KMS" -> "times the KMS"
p79, second para: "One can not" -> "One cannot"
p79, third para: "then captured" -> "than captured"
Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1) on 2018-9-25 (Invited Report)
- Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:1804.04654v2, delivered 2018-09-25, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.590
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If the authors feel like it, I would suggest extending the discussion of the expected applicability and implications of the new constraint. However, I do not think that this change is compulsory in order for the paper to be published.