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Out-of-equilibrium Eigenstate Thermalization Hypothesis

by Laura Foini, Anatoly Dymarsky, Silvia Pappalardi

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Laura Foini · Silvia Pappalardi
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Preprint Link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.04684v5  (pdf)
Date accepted: 2025-04-09
Date submitted: 2025-02-26 22:27
Submitted by: Foini, Laura
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • Condensed Matter Physics - Theory
  • Quantum Physics
Approach: Theoretical

Abstract

Understanding how out-of-equilibrium states thermalize under quantum unitary dynamics is an important problem in many-body physics. In this work, we propose a statistical ansatz for the matrix elements of non-equilibrium initial states in the energy eigenbasis, in order to describe such evolution. The approach is inspired by the Eigenstate Thermalisation Hypothesis (ETH) but the proposed ansatz exhibits different scaling. Importantly, we point out the exponentially small cross-correlations between the observable and the initial state matrix elements that determine relaxation dynamics toward equilibrium. We numerically verify scaling and cross-correlation, point out the emergent universality of the high-frequency behavior, and outline possible generalizations.

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Author comments upon resubmission

We thank both referees for the appreciation of our work and the constructive reports which allowed
us to improve our manuscript. Below you will find the answers to their comments.

List of changes

Referee 1

1) We thank the referee for this point.
For the correlator A(t)B similar considerations lead to F(n)AB(ω)=fA(ω)fB(ω)gAB(ω) with gAB(ωij)=¯RAijRBji. This was mentioned, in different terms, already in Ref.[Phys. Rev. Lett. 125, 050603 (2020)] and Ref.[Phys. Rev. Lett. 129, 170603 (2022)]. We introduced a footnote on page 3 to highlight this point. Since our main focus is the study of post-quenched dynamics, we have decided not to discuss these cross-correlations in detail.

2) The Referee is right, Ψij being of rank-1 implies additional higher-order relations, for instance ˜Rij˜Rjk˜Rki=(1+˜Rii)(1+˜Rjj)(1+˜Rkk) with ijk and so on. It seems that they all descend from (14a) and (14b).
At order 3, using first (14a) and then (14b), we find
˜Rij˜Rjk˜Rki=˜Rik(1+˜Rjj)˜Rki=(1+˜Rii)(1+˜Rjj)(1+˜Rkk).
Similarly at order 4, using twice (14a) and then (14b).
˜Rij˜Rjk˜Rkl˜Rli=˜Rik(1+˜Rjj)˜Rki(1+˜Rll)=(1+˜Rii)(1+˜Rjj)(1+˜Rkk)(1+˜Rll)
We expanded Appendix A.2 to mention these constraints there.

3) We thank the referee for the remark on multi-time correlation functions, which we believe is very interesting.
To properly capture such correlation functions, our ansatz has to be extended. In the revised version, we discuss this in section 2.4. Regarding the title, indeed our ansatz is useful beyond out-of-equilibrium context, but we wanted to emphasize the dynamical aspect, not captured by conventional ETH.

4) Let us consider a state which is a small perturbation of an eigenstate, |ψ=eiϵB|En. By expanding for small ϵ one gets:
|ψ=11+ϵ2En|B2|En(|En+iϵB|En)
so that ψ|A(t)|ψEn|A|En+iϵEn|[A(t),B]|En.
We readily find
Ψijδi,nδj,niϵ[Binδj,nBnjδi,n]=δi,nδj,niϵeS(En)/2[fB(ωin)RBinδj,nfB(ωjn)RBnjδi,n].
Tensor Ψij for this state doesn't have a smooth diagonal component, it is thus beyond the scope of our ansatz.
This is because the perturbation is applied to an eigenstate. If instead the parturbation is applied to the type of states that we consider, the ansatz is stable. We comment on this in section 2.4.
Generalization of ansatz to include the states proposed by the referee would be an interesting task for the future.

5) From the numerical results we have, it seems that the out-of-equilibrium ETH'' ansatz has the same finite-size effects as the standard one. In fact, the convergence with the system size N in Fig.~3 of the manuscript is very similar to the one we obtain for the matrix elements ¯AijAji. We wanted to include a figure to show better this but it is not possible in the text version that we use here.

6) We thank the referee for the careful reading and have corrected the typo.

Referee 2

1) We thank the referee for careful reading; we have removed the reference to the supplementary material, which was unnecessary.

2) We have extended the caption of Fig.1 to add a description of panel (b).

3) To first approximation, the probability distribution of the off-diagonal matrix elements follows that of the product of two uncorrelated Gaussian random variables, resulting in a distribution described by the modified Bessel function of the second kind. We have added a discussion of this point in section 2.4 of the manuscript, and show corresponding numerical results in Fig.~2 in the revised version.

4) We thank the referee for pointing out a set of confusing notations. We have address that in the revised version.

5) We thank the referee for the careful reading. We have corrected the typos.

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Editorial decision: For Journal SciPost Physics: Publish
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Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-3-28 (Invited Report)

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For a general assessment, see my report on the first version. In the second version the authors have addressed in a satisfactory way the points I made in my original report.

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