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Symmetry Operators and Gravity

by Ibrahima Bah, Patrick Jefferson, Konstantinos Roumpedakis, Thomas Waddleton

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Patrick Jefferson
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Preprint Link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.08858v2  (pdf)
Date accepted: Oct. 1, 2025
Date submitted: Sept. 20, 2025, 2:36 p.m.
Submitted by: Patrick Jefferson
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • High-Energy Physics - Theory
Approach: Theoretical

Abstract

We argue that topological operators for continuous symmetries written in terms of currents need regularization, which effectively gives them a small but finite width. The regulated operator is a finite tension object which fluctuates. In the zero-width limit these fluctuations freeze, recovering the properties of a topological operator. When gravity is turned on, the zero-width limit becomes ill-defined, thereby prohibiting the existence of topological operators.

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Report 1:

  1. The Jacobian factors for the examples we describe in the paper are actually trivial (i.e., equal to unity). We added footnote 26 in the revision to indicate that this is the case, and moreover it is straightforwardly checked.

  2. Added a comment clarifying this argument, directly beneath the un-numbered equation on page 3.

Report 2:

  1. Fixed typo below (21).

  2. We corrected two typos that address the referee's comments, namely we changed f to f'^2 (please see footnote 28 in the revision) and changed T/2 to T for the Nambu-Goto action.

  3. Unfortunately, regarding the fermionic case, we do not have any more useful comments to make about the technicalities at the moment, so we did not expand on the discussion.

Published as SciPost Phys. 19, 116 (2025)

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