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Tunneling with physics-informed RG flows in the anharmonic oscillator

by Alfio Bonanno, Friederike Ihssen, Jan M. Pawlowski

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Friederike Ihssen
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Preprint Link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.03437v1  (pdf)
Date submitted: April 9, 2025, 9:59 a.m.
Submitted by: Friederike Ihssen
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
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  • Condensed Matter Physics - Theory
  • High-Energy Physics - Theory
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Abstract

We solve the anharmonic oscillator with physics-informed renormalisation group (PIRG) flows, with an emphasis on the weak coupling regime with its instanton-dominated tunnelling processes. We show that the instanton physics behind the exponential decay of the energy gap is already covered in the first order of the derivative expansion of the PIRG. The crucial new ingredients in the present analysis are the use of the ground state expansion within PIRG flows, as well as precision numerics based on Galerkin methods. Our result $a_{\mathrm{inst}} = 1.910(2)$ for the decay constant is in quantitative agreement with the analytic one, $a_{\mathrm{inst}} = 1.886$ with a deviation of $1\%$. This illustrates very impressively the capacity of the PIRG for fully capturing non-perturbative physics already in relatively simple approximations.

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Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-8-14 (Invited Report)

Strengths

1) Explores the use of field redefinitions and the non-perturbative RG to capture non-perturbative physics.

2) Introduces a new observable that seems more accessible numerically.

3) The results suggest that the current approach and approximation can reveal the key aspects of the weak coupling regime.

4) Numerical advances in solving the flow equations for the anharmonic oscillator.

Weaknesses

1) The relation between the mean composite field and the mean fundamental field is not clearly defined.

2) The important step to arrive at the expression for the new observable is obscure.

3) It is not clear at this stage whether reconstructing the map between the fields is essential to obtain the desired observables.

Report

This work tests non-perturbative renormalization group techniques with an application to the anharmonic oscillator. In particular, scale-dependent field redefinitions are used to simplify the form of the flowing action. Results are then obtained in the first order of the derivative expansion.

At present, the paper is not clear in some aspects, and therefore these points need to be addressed by the authors. I list my specific comments below.

  1. Regarding field redefinitions, the composite field $\hat{\phi}[\hat{\varphi}]$ is coupled to a source to arrive at the effective action $\Gamma_\phi[\phi]$. However, in equation (10) a relation $\phi[\varphi]$ is referred to, and it is not clear to me how this relation is defined. In particular, any expectation $\phi = \langle \hat{\phi} \rangle$ value depends not only on the operator $\hat{\phi}$, but also on which field is coupled to the source. Is $\phi[\varphi] = \langle \hat{\phi} \rangle $ when the source is coupled to the fundamental field $\hat{\varphi}$ or to the composite field $\hat{\phi}[\hat{\varphi}]$? My confusion is made worse when I try to understand equation (14); I'm not sure where this comes from given that $\dot{\phi}$ is not the derivative of the mean field but the expectation value of the derivative of the fundamental field. Can one derive (14) from some other definition of $\phi[\varphi]$, or is (14) in fact the definition?

  2. Because the definition of the map between mean fields is obscure, it is hard to access the approximation (16). Is there some limiting case where (16) could hold with an equality sign?

  3. I'm unsure where equation (35) comes from. It is key to defining the alternative observable evaluated by the authors and hence obtaining the main result of the work. I understand that, according to the authors, this does not rely on the approximation (16). This seems promising if it does not entail reconstructing the field transformation to compute the observables $a_{\rho_\phi}$. The authors refer to (35) as a ``leading order map''. The authors need to better guide the readers to arrive at (35), to understand its significance, and to elaborate on how higher orders could be obtained.

  4. In relation to the last point, can the authors make it clear whether it is possible to calculate $a_{\rm inst}$ {\it without} knowing the details of the field transformation? Is this perhaps an open question?

  5. Minor point. In equation (B7) there appears to be a typo: there should be a factor $Z_{\varphi}$ in the denominator rather than $Z_{\varphi}^{1/2}$, I believe.

To conclude, the paper touches on some important questions and suggests the power of field transformations in addressing truly non-perturbative problems. However, in its current form the paper is rather opaque in parts. I think this is somewhat understandable given the exploratory nature of the work. It seems to me like many steps are based on educated guesses.

My recommendation is that the paper could be published after addressing the points I have raised.

Requested changes

  1. The relation between the mean fields appearing in equation (10) should be defined clearly.

  2. The nature of the approximation (16) should be clarified.

  3. The origin of equation (35) needs to be elaborated on and made clear to the reader.

  4. The authors should make it clear whether it is possible to calculate a_inst without knowing the details of the field transformation.

  5. A typo in (B7) should be fixed.

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Author:  Friederike Ihssen  on 2025-10-06  [id 5891]

(in reply to Report 2 on 2025-08-14)

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We thank the referee for their comments. As was pointed out, the subject of PIRGs is indeed one of ongoing research explaining the exploratory nature of the work. We have tried to use recent developments (in particular ref. [18]) to clarify some of the questions raised regarding the manuscript. Major changes are highlighted in orange in the manuscript.


Weaknesses Referee 2:

We thank Referee 2 for their very helpful remarks. We believe that the weaknesses pointed out by the second referee can be remedied and will greatly improve the clarity of the manuscript.

1) This statement is true, however the relation between these quantities is also not needed. We have reordered the introduction to the PIRG formalism in Section III to clarify this.

2) The "important step" is not a derivation, but a heuristic matching of the scaling. We have tried to clarify this throughout the text and added a paragraph to motivate this step further (see also point 3) in the answer to the detailed report).

3) The present approach and observables are constructed such that the map is not needed, the only relevant ingredient is $\dot\phi$. This is now clearly stated in the manuscript and we have removed all equations referencing the map $\phi[\varphi]$ to Appendix B. They were originally added to improve the intuition for the system.


Detailed reply to the specific comments of Referee 2:

1) The initial formulation of the PIRG pair in terms of $(\Gamma_\phi[\phi], \phi[\varphi])$ (formerly eq. 10, now eq. 13) was meant to create an intuition for the idea underlying the PIRGs, but has clearly failed its purpose. We have tried to remedy this by reordering Section III and by changing the formulation to $(\Gamma_\phi[\phi], \dot \phi[\phi])$. We have also clarified that eq. (14) is based on an interpretation of $\dot \phi$ as a total derivative of the field, but is not used in the main text of the paper (anymore, see points 2), 4)). Furthermore we provided a reference to other reconstruction methods [18], to clarify the nature of eq. (14).

2) We have removed former eq. 16 from the main text, it is now in the Appendix (eq (B1)). Importantly, it is not used in the derivation of the main result. We have currently not found specific examples where (B1) holds with an equality sign, apart from the trivial one $\dot \phi = 0$. It is however subject of ongoing research and we have added a new reference [18] below (14) where we also comment on this question in Sec IV.D.

3) The former eq. (35) (now eq. 32) is a heuristic matching, motivated by the common mechanism driving the exponential behaviour in both quantities. We have added added a paragraph which motivates this choice, see the highlighted text around (32) and above (33). We have also included statements in the abstract, introduction and conclusion which clearly state the nature of the result, to avoid overselling the quantitative result obtained from this procedure.

We have abstained from including higher orders in the map to keep this procedure as simple as possible. A graphical comparison of $\Delta E$ and the rescaled version of $\rho_c$ suggest that there is a relation between both, which could possibly be improved further by subleading terms. However, as the concept of implicit field transformation using the PIRGs is still quite new, we do not have a formal derivation for the reason of this resemblance at this point. Hence we have refrained from adding it to the manuscript.

4) The details of the field transformation are not necessary. We have added this in the main text at the very end of sec. III, as well as once again at the beginning of sec V.A. We believe this question was raised due to the appearance of the previous eqs (16, 19, 20) which seemed to be more confusing than helpful in the understanding of the manuscript. We have shifted them to Appendix B (now eqs B1 - B3).

5) We have fixed the typo!

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Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1) on 2025-6-3 (Invited Report)

Strengths

1- The paper exploits a recently developed method and a particular expansion (the ground state expansion) to simplify the study of strongly non-perturbative regimes, by means of Renormalization group flow techniques.

2- The suggestion of an original observable, in principle simpler to compute with large accuracy, in order to point out the non-perturbative features of the analysed problem.

3- The use of a precise numerical approach, crucial in the resolution of the flow equations.

Weaknesses

1- The method does not seem much simpler than the standard approach. Again a couple of differential equations are involved.

2- While the results on the new observable look more promising, those on the energy gap, the usually studied observable, only slightly improve on the existing results.

3- The full improvement on the existing results is unclear, as the new observable was never determined within the older approach, and the error on these observable, associated with spurious regulator dependence is not analysed.

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The purpose of the paper is certainly interesting and it contains original ingredients, introduced to reach the prefixed goal.

However, I find the comparison with the existing similar tests quite incomplete, so that the improvement achieved along this new route is less evident.

Therefore, in my opinion, the paper deserves to be reconsidered for publication, after some changes and improvements are implemented by the authors.

Below, a detail report is given.

The paper deals with the application of the recently developed physics-informed renormalization group (PIRG) flow to the quartically anharmonic double well quantum mechanical oscillator as a test to verify the capability of this approach to describe the instanton dominated regime, corresponding to small anharmonicity. In particular, the authors not only employ a novel flow but they also focus on the determination of a new parameter, indicated as $a_{inst}$, instead of the commonly studied energy gap $\Delta E$.

The purpose of the paper is certainly interesting and it contains original ingredients, introduced to reach the prefixed goal. However, I find the comparison with the existing similar tests quite incomplete, so that the improvement achieved along this new route is less evident.

Here is the list of the issues that, in my opinion, the authors should reconsider:

1) The novel technique, the PIRG, was developed in advance and the explanation of many details is addressed to a group of papers quoted in the references (many of which co-authored by some of the authors of the present paper). This makes the understanding of the paper rather heavy and leaves few points obscure.

    1.a) For instance the inequalities in Eq. (15) and the approximation in Eq. (16) should be supported by a direct measurement of $\Delta E$, which   is actually

reported in Figure 7 and shows only a marginal improvement with respect to the existing literature. Then, just after Eq. (16), the authors say that they prefer to devise the new observable $a_{inst}$, therefore leaving the reader still questioning about the accuracy of the approximation in Eq. (16).

  1.b)  Another example is given by Eq. (35), that I find very difficult to derive from Appendix B2, as suggested by the authors, whereas it is

crucial in determining Eqs. (37) and (40), which are at the heart of the main numerical test. In order to help the readers, I would suggest to expand on this point in the manuscript.

2) Again on the computation of $\Delta E$ in Appendix B1. We notice that the authors probe the instanton dominated region down to $\lambda_\phi =0.22$ (according to their Eq. (33)) and claim that such highly non-perturbative region, dominated by exponential decay, starts below $\lambda_\phi =0.4$. They also claim in the Introduction that none of the previous computations - available in the literature - could confirm the exponential decay and that, in addition, already at larger couplings, outside the exponential regime, sizeable deviations from the correct scaling with the couplings have been reported. Moreover, at the end of Section IV they state that, up until now, solving the Wetterich equation deep in the instanton regime ... was unsuccessful.

Now, according to the results shown in Figure 7, three numerical points taken from reference [7], lie below $\lambda_\phi =0.4$, therefore within the instanton regime. Moreover, in reference [7] one finds two determinations of $\Delta E$ below $\lambda_\phi =0.4$, obtained with the Wetterich equation, that, although with large errors, clearly show an exponential trend with the coupling, especially if the first order approximation in the derivative expansion gets compared with the LPA of the Wetterich equation.

Therefore, one must conclude that the statements of the authors quoted above are too strict with respect to the past results and too generous toward their own achievements. In fact, by looking at Figure 7, both the extension into the instanton regime and the actual determination of $\Delta E$ do not seem very much improved by their analysis which, in my opinion, would also require a more accurate analysis of the uncertainties related to the use of different regulators. In fact, according to [7], regulators different from the one reported in Figure 7, do further reduce the distance from the actual value of $\Delta E$. Additionally, unlike stated by the authors, results reported in Figure 7 from [7] for larger $\lambda_\phi$, seem in equal agreement with the actual $\Delta E$ as those from PIRG.

3) I understand that my criticism in 2) concerns a point on which the authors intend to further improve. However, even for the main result of the paper, i.e. Eq. (45), it is evident from figure 4 that their analysis involves values of the couplings down to $\lambda_\phi\simeq 0.3 $, which is not very different from the results collected in [7], so that the instanton dominated explored region is essentially the same. Moreover it would be extremely instructive to compare the result in Eq. (45) with the analogous number obtained by the standard (not PIRG) flow, possibly including the uncertainty coming from different regulators, to get a quantitative estimate of accuracy of this approach and substantial comparison with other analyses.

4) Some typos or mistakes to be corrected: (A) In the term proportional to $\lambda_\phi$ in the central term of Eq. (5.b), $1/\sqrt{2}$ is missing.
(B) In the list of references of papers that analysed this issue in the past, the paper by A.S. Kapoyannis and N. Tetradis Phys.Lett.A 276 (2000) 225-232
e-Print: hep-th/0010180 [hep-th] should be included. (C) The quotation - PT RG from [6] - in Figure 7, left and right, is wrong and it should be changed into [7], coherently with the caption. Also in the Appendix B1 text, when the authors mention - the data taken from [7], Table II -, as far as I understand, they intend to refer to Table 4 of [7].

In conclusion I think that the paper in the present form is not suitable for publication, but it should be reconsidered after some amendments and suggested improvements are properly taken into account.

Requested changes

As explained in detail in the full report , the major requested changes are:

1- A better explanation of the validity of Eq. (16) in the light of the results in Fig. 7

2- An explanation on the derivation of Eq. (35), and consequently of (37) , (40)

3- A more accurate comparison of the results in Fig. 7 which includes (at least indicatively) the error associated with the use of different regulators.

4- If possible, the determination of $a_{inst}$ with the standard technique of FRG (not PIRG), again including the uncertainty associated with different regulators.

5- The revision of the statements concerning the great progress of this approach with respect to the old one, as it is not so far, sufficiently corroborated.

6- the correction of the typos (A), (B), (C), illustrated in point 4) of the above report.

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We thank referee for their comments. As was pointed out, the subject of PIRGs is indeed one of ongoing research explaining the exploratory nature of the work. We have tried to use recent developments to answer some of the questions raised regarding the clarity of the manuscript in the re-submission.


Weaknesses:

1) We agree that there is still a significant numerical overhead to the computation, as required for a fully field dependent resolution of a partial differential equation (PDE). However, we do believe that there are some qualitative numerical simplifications to be found in the formal developments of the PIRG setup (going from 2 PDE's to one PDE and an algebraic relation). We have added Appendix D.3 to the resubmission to clarify.

2) The results of the energy gap were purposefully shifted to the Appendix, since they are not the main focus or result of this work. We have decided to provide them as additional material and not in the main text because of this. No data from these plots were used to obtain the results stated in the main text.

3) We have tried to evaluate the new observable using the available data of the energy gap in literature, as well as our own comparable results using the energy gap which were mentioned in weakness 2. We were unsuccessful and have therefore not included this failed attempt in the paper. This is addressed further below.


Detailed reply to the specific comments of Referee 1:

1) A similar point was raised by referee 2, hence we defer to the detailed answers given to points 1), 2) and 3) raised by the second referee. This comment was very valuable in improving the quality of the manuscript!

As a consequence to these valid concerns, we have reordered Sec III and have moved all equations alluding to the reconstruction task and to (formerly) eq. (16) to the Appendix, where they are used. Their inclusion to the main text was apparently misleading as they are not used to obtain the main result of the manuscript. We have also added a paragraph in the vicinity of eq. (32) and (33) (formerly 35) and stressed the heuristic nature of the mapping in prominent places of the manuscript.

2) The data displayed in Fig. 7 from the ref [6] was taken from a proper time RG approach and not calculated using the Wetterich equation. Ref [6] provides two data points obtained from the Wetterich equation for couplings within the determined instanton regime: one right at the boundary $\lambda_\varphi = 0.4$ in the convention of the present paper and one at $\lambda_\varphi = 0.32$ ($\log_{10}\lambda_\varphi \approx -0.5$) whose deviation from the exact result is so large that it would barely show with the axes chosen in Fig. 7.

Hence we believe that the statement at the end of sec. IV is correct regarding the numerical difficulty in solving the Wetterich equation in this regime. To accommodate the results of ref[6] we have changed the wording. We have also added a comment pointing out, that these difficulties may not be present in the PT RG.

We would like to emphasise that any statements in the main text do not refer to the data of the energy gap displayed in the Appendix and we do not claim to make quantitative improvements in this regard. In fact, the reference data is called "to this date [...] the most quantitatively precise results obtained from the fRG" (above B7).

The main result of the present work is Fig.5, and the determination of the suppression factor $a_{\text{inst}}$. We hope to report on improved results in regard to a true reconstruction of $\Delta E$ and possibly also a regulator study in the future, but we believe that it is outside of the scope of the present work.

3) We have attempted to do a similar analysis to eq. (42) (formerly (45)) using eq. (34) with data for the energy gap. This attempt was unsuccessful using our data displayed in Fig. 7 as no flat regime developed in the projection. We believe that this is related to the numerical accuracy required when dealing with exponentially suppressed quantities and the quality of the derivative expansion deep in the pseudo-flat regime. These reasons encouraged us to use the new observable $\rho_c$ in the projection.

We were unable to do an analysis for the data provided in ref [6], as the projection (34) requires taking a derivative and a subsequent determination of the sub-leading scaling factor $c_{\Delta E}$. Our inquiry to the authors of [6] for more data points was unsuccessful until now. Nevertheless we agree that such an investigation would be very instructive.

We have added a brief statement at the beginning of sec V.B, that the present work only works with the rescaled data of $\rho_c$. We would like to emphasise, that the lack of comparison with literature results is not founded in ignorance and generosity towards our own achievements, but in the lack of the required data for such an analysis. The present computation is the first to observe any flattening within the instanton regime at all and it required a considerable amount of work even with the qualitatively simpler numerics in the PIRG approach. A regulator study, though highly interesting, is in our opinion safely beyond the scope of the present work. Such a study and improvements of the present approximation are work in progress.

4) We have accommodated for all remarks!


Requested changes: We hope to have realised changes 2), 5), 6)

1) We have emphasised that (B1) (formerly eq.16) and the results of the energy gap (Fig. 7) are not the main result of the present work by moving it to the appendix in its entirety. They are an interesting additional information, which is not used any further, as such a better explanation is deferred to future work.

3) We believe that this is outside the scope of the present work, as this result is not further used.

4) This is unfortunately not possible with the available data.

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