SciPost Submission Page
Coherent-state path integrals in quantum thermodynamics
by Luca Salasnich, Cesare Vianello
Submission summary
| Authors (as registered SciPost users): | Luca Salasnich · Cesare Vianello |
| Submission information | |
|---|---|
| Preprint Link: | https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.11547v1 (pdf) |
| Date submitted: | Nov. 17, 2025, 4:47 p.m. |
| Submitted by: | Luca Salasnich |
| Submitted to: | SciPost Physics Lecture Notes |
| Ontological classification | |
|---|---|
| Academic field: | Physics |
| Specialties: |
|
| Approach: | Theoretical |
Abstract
In these notes, we elucidate some subtle aspects of coherent-state path integrals, focusing on their application to the equilibrium thermodynamics of quantum many-particle systems. These subtleties emerge when evaluating path integrals in the continuum, either in imaginary time or in Matsubara-frequency space. Our central message is that, when handled with due care, the path integral yields results identical to those obtained from the canonical Hamiltonian approach. We illustrate this through a pedagogical treatment of several paradigmatic systems: the bosonic and fermionic harmonic oscillators, the single-site Bose-Hubbard and Hubbard models, the weakly-interacting Bose gas with contact and finite-range interactions, and the BCS superconductor with contact and finite-range interactions.
Current status:
Reports on this Submission
Report #3 by Jacques Tempere (Referee 3) on 2025-12-23 (Invited Report)
Strengths
For example, the explanation of the convergence factors (and their origin) for the Matsubara summations in section 4 is very enlightening. I admit that
the additional beta*(hbar omega/2) term that appears erroneously in some textbooks has been puzzling me, and here I find it unambiguously and clearly explained.
Report
Requested changes
The authors can consider a few small comments. Firstly, it was necessary for me to remind myself that Grassman variables not only anticommute among each other, but also anticommute with their operators. That appears when having the annihilation operator act on the right hand side of 2.14, in order to obtain 2.15a. It might be useful to remind other readers of this as well.
A step that may deserve a bit more attention is the one going from (3.20), the second-quantized version of the Hamiltonian, to (3.22), the Euclidean action. In the last term of (3.22). In relation to the problem identified in the section below, one could wonder why there is (a* a)^2 to start with, rather than (a*a)(a*a-1). Usually, the problem is formulated the other way around, with a quantization scheme (for example Weyl quantization) specifying how to assign operators to phase space variables. Since there are different choices possible, I think it would be clarifying if the authors gave more explanation at this point.
Another interesting detail that could be commented on is the \omega=0 frequency term for bosons. When using the \omega_(-n) = - \omega_n symmetry as in (4.22) care must be taken for that special term that is the only one not doubled by this symmetry. It would be nice if the authors could add a discussion of that detail as errors there also lead in an additional term not unlike the one they address already.
Recommendation
Publish (easily meets expectations and criteria for this Journal; among top 50%)
Report #2 by Adam Rancon (Referee 2) on 2025-12-20 (Invited Report)
Strengths
1- pedagogical discussion of subtleties in coherent-state path integral
Weaknesses
1- Somewhat unfocused: some subsections are textbook material that are not related to the subtleties of path integrals.
Report
The manuscript discusses pedagogically the subtleties that arise when dealing with coherent state path integrals. These include the issue of non-linear changes of variables, which can lead to wrong results when not performed properly; the fact that Hubbard-Stratonovich fields are white noise and should be handled properly in functional determinants; the problem of convergence factors in Matusbara sum. The first two issues have been the subject of some debates in the recent literature, and could deserve being the subject of a review or of some pedagogical notes. This is much more debatable concerning the last issue, since it is well-known and discussed in many textbooks.
Furthermore, the manuscript is somewhat unfocused, since additional textbook material unrelated to coherent state path integrals are discussed at length (sec. 5.1.3, 5.2, 6.3, App A and B). These sections should be removed.
Sometimes, the authors don't seem to quite know the level of pedagogy they aim for. For instance, they want to start at a very basic level, but do not give the canonical (anti)-commutation relations of the operators, which seems strange. See also my remarks below.
I think the manuscript could be published if it were more focused and expanded on the subtleties discussed in the recent literature, and after my comments below are addressed, and the requested changes are implemented.
1- I don't quite agree with the discussion of Q_k(eps) around Eq. 2.4. In Eq. 2.4, all terms of order greater than 1 in eps are neglected (eps standing for $\tilde \epsilon$), not just the ones in Q_k(eps). See the (correct) discussion of the functional determinant, which is computed with an error of order 1/M^2~eps^2.
2- page 12, I do not understand what the discussion of mean-field vs saddle point brings as it is written. Furthermore, I have an issue with the calculation done in Eq. 3.41: there, N is NOT a HS field behaving as a white noise, so there is no reason why there should be a correction term g/2 in the exponent exp(beta(mu+g/2-Ng). Furthermore, Eq. 3.39 is ambiguous: what is S_MF in that equation? It is not even clear what calculation is done. Do they use the HS field phi, do the integration over the a,a^*, and then do the saddle-point approximation? If so, then extra g/2 in the exponent is correct. Otherwise, it is not clear. My suggestion is that, after the calculations done on that page are corrected/clarified, a discussion of the difference between MF and SP would be interesting, and, it seems to me, new. This is a question left open in the conclusion of Ref. 14 that would be interesting to address here.
3- In the fermionic case (p.13), there does not seem to be an Ito correction term. Why is it so? It is unfortunate that the authors do not discuss the discretized version to explain why it appears to be so different from the bosonic case. This is again a problem that has not been addressed in the literature and deserves a pedagogical discussion here.
4- When dealing with convergence factors for Matsubara sums, the authors do not do much better than what most textbooks usually do: they drop the convergence factors that appear at the discretized level, to add them back when necessary, with a sign only chosen to reproduce the correct result. This is sloppy and goes against the advertised pedagogical purpose of these notes. The sentence "‘reg’ reminds us that the divergent summation should be properly regularized. Here ‘properly’ means, of course, that the result should give back Eq. (4.7)" is in this respect particularly damaging. If the authors want to keep this section, it should be written in a way to avoid these kinds of pitfalls.
- Similarly, as it is written, Sec. 5 and 6 are superfluous, as the handling of convergence factors is not done better than in textbooks (it is just a rehash of, e.g., chapter 7 of Dupuis'). For instance, the sentence "The treatment we have presented, which is based on the careful introduction of convergence factors motivated by the implicit time ordering of the path integral" is misleading, since the convergence factors have disappeared in Eq. 5.37, and are added by hand in 5.44 to obtain the correct result. If they were kept throughout the calculation, there would be at least a pedagogical interest. The same goes for the BCS calculation.
Requested changes
1 - remove sec. 5.1.3, 5.2, 6.3, App A and B
3- Sec. 2: the canonical (anti)-commutation relations should be given. The fact that fermionic operators anticommute with Grassmann variables should be discussed. The latter should be defined.
3- Eq. 3.23: H(N) should be defined right away. It is implicit, and can very well be confusing (since it looks very much like \hat H, and could imply that it is \hat H with \hat N replaced by N, which it is not!)
4- Bosonic and fermionic Matsubara frequencies should be defined around eq. 4.2, not in Sec. 4.2
5- after eq. 4.16: The number N can be set by taking the limit beta->infty, which unbigously set it to 0.
6- below Eq. 5.2, L is not defined, and the dilute limit should read a_s^D N/L^D<<1.
7- p. 31: I do not understand the equation i pi lim_{delta->0^+} Sum_n e^{-i omega_n delta}=0, nor its connection to Eq. 4.27
Recommendation
Ask for major revision
Report
Recommendation
Reject
