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Digital quantum simulation of bosonic systems and quantum complementarity

by Victor P. Brasil, Diego S. Starke, Jonas Maziero

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Diego Samuel Starke
Ontological classification
Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • Quantum Physics
Approaches: Theoretical, Experimental, Computational

Abstract

Digital quantum simulation has emerged as a powerful approach to investigate complex quantum systems using digital quantum computers. Many-particle bosonic systems and intricate optical experimental setups pose significant challenges for classical simulation methods. Utilizing a recently developed formalism that maps bosonic operators to Pauli operators via the Gray code, we digitally simulate interferometric variants of Afshar's experiment on IBM's quantum computers. We investigate the analogous experiments of Unruh and Pessoa J\'unior, exploring discussions on the apparent violation of Bohr's complementarity principle when considering the entire experimental setup. Furthermore, we analyze these experiments within the framework of an updated quantum complementarity principle, which applies to specific quantum state preparations and remains consistent with the foundational principles of quantum mechanics. Our quantum computer demonstration results are in good agreement with the theoretical predictions and underscore the potential of quantum computers as effective simulators for bosonic systems.

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Awaiting resubmission

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Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-6-16 (Invited Report)

Report

In this manuscript, the authors address the digital simulation of quantum systems based on bosonic degrees of freedom by means of state-of-the-art quantum computers. In particular, they discuss the quantum complementary principle in the context of two experiments proposed by Pessoa Júnior. These experiments aim to both simulate the main features of Afshar’s experiment and provide an interpretation in the framework of the complementary principle. Therefore, the authors provide a comparison between theoretical probabilities, classical simulations and demonstrative results obtained by means of IBMQ quantum computers. The manuscript presents broad reviews of the mathematical background, yet it lacks in the exposition of valid new results. To motivate this statement, I list three main reasons below:

  1. The authors have extensively illustrated the technique introduced by Mohan et al., extending the method to a set-up embracing more than two bosons. In Mohan et al., the bosonic nature of the particles they simulated covers a fundamental role, since they were interested in the simulation of the HOM effect. On the contrary, all experimental schemes discussed in this manuscript require only one quantum excitation in total. The high (infinite) dimensionality of the Hilbert space of bosonic degrees of freedom hence does not seem to play any relevant role in the discussion, since the presence (or absence) of the quanton in a specific mode can all in all be described in terms of single qubit modes without invoking any bosonic framework. The authors should better motivate the choice of extending and employing such mathematical apparatus.

  2. In both Fig.8 and Fig.11 demonstrations and theoretical/simulation data show important fluctuations. Authors claim that this is due to the presence of noise and losses. Nevertheless, these discrepancy sources have an impactful effect on the outcomes. In some histogram the discrepancy between the expected and the observed data even amounts to over 40%, such as in Fig.11A in 0001, where the expected value is 0.02, whereas the demonstration displays the value 0.011. In Fig.8 the demonstrations display fluctuations as wide as or even wider than the expectation values in other plots. These results seem to lead to the conclusion that the instruments used for the demonstrations are not enough accurate for this kind of measurements.

  3. A last relevant remark concerns their analysis in the light of the quantum complementarity principle. In their discussions, authors recall and report the results achieved in [37], where the quantum complementarity principle has been applied to both the BMZI and the Unruh experiment. Moreover, they claim that “The explanation of the experiment in Fig. 2 using the QCP also extends to the modified Unruh’s experiment (Fig. 4) and Pessoa Júnior’s experiment (Fig. 9). This follows from the fact that BBS1 in these setups is a generalization of BS1, which corresponds to the specific case where T1 = R1 = 1/√2. Since all these experimental configurations are designed to analyze the quanton’s dual behavior after the first beam splitter, their description follows naturally from the QCP framework”. This seems to be the core of their theoretical results. Yet, they do not provide any further concrete mathematical analysis to support it. Moreover, the BMZI, which includes biased BS, has already been discussed in [37]. If both the description of both the modified Unruh’s experiment and Pessoa Júnior’s experiment follows from the QCP framework so naturally that it does not even require a more detailed analysis, it is not clear what are the elements of novelty of the manuscript.

Therefore, I would not recommend the publication unless the authors properly address the issues presented above.

Finally, some relatively minor issues related to the readability of the manuscript: 1) In Fig.3 detector D(A) and D(B) should be switched. Or the sentence on page 5 and the caption of Fig.3 must be changed. According to both Afshar’s experiment and the current notation on the figure, closing the slit A we should observe a click on the detector B. 2) What phase phi_H and phi_E have been used for the histograms in fig.8? Are they phi_E=1/2 and phi_H=0? 3) In the end of page 12, state B_1 has six digit. 4) In Fig.10, the action of BS_2, U_M and BS_3 seems to involve all four modes, whereas it actually involves only two of them. For this reason, as an attachment I prepared an alternative scheme I believe more suitable for fig.10. The authors may consider this scheme instead of that in Fig.10. If not, they should better explain the switch between P and M after U_M.

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Recommendation

Ask for major revision

  • validity: ok
  • significance: ok
  • originality: poor
  • clarity: good
  • formatting: -
  • grammar: -

Report #1 by Anonymous (Referee 1) on 2025-5-14 (Invited Report)

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The Afshar experiment, a variation of the double-slit experiment in quantum mechanics, was devised and conducted by Shahriar Afshar in 2004. Afshar asserted that the experiment provides information about the path a photon takes through the apparatus while simultaneously allowing for the observation of interference between the paths. He claimed that this finding contradicts the complementarity principle of quantum mechanics. In response, several experiments have critiqued Afshar's work, including one by Unruh. Unruh, like Kastner, set up a configuration he believes is both equivalent and simpler. His approach magnifies the effect, making it easier to identify flaws in the logic. This article presents a detailed overview of Afshar's original experiment, along with Unruh's experiment and a modified version (Pessoa Junior's), to examine the issues raised by Afshar concerning a potential violation of the complementarity principle.

The authors have digitally simulated interferometric variants of Afshar's experiment using IBM's quantum computers. They have explored the analogous experiments conducted by Unruh and Pessoa Júnior, delving into discussions regarding the apparent violation of Bohr's complementarity principle in the context of the entire experimental setup. Additionally, they have analyzed these experiments within the framework of an updated quantum complementarity principle, which applies to specific quantum state preparations while remaining consistent with the foundational principles of quantum mechanics.

I believe that much of the calculations, except for minor errors (e.g. A1 to A5) and analysis is fine. However, I think using a digital simulator on an IBM machine may be a little heavy handed. The analysis could proceed with simple optical experiments on an optical bench, although it may somehow lose some oomphs and also some of the experiments may have already been demonstrated. So, aside from the usual arguments from the proponents and critiques of the original exeriment, what really is new aside from a somewhat trivial application of a quantum simulator.

Overall, I think the paper is more suitable for a pedagogical journal. I do not recomment it for SciPost.

Report

I think the article is better suited for a pedagogical journal.

Recommendation

Accept in alternative Journal (see Report)

  • validity: ok
  • significance: ok
  • originality: low
  • clarity: good
  • formatting: acceptable
  • grammar: acceptable

Author:  Diego Samuel Starke  on 2025-05-19  [id 5497]

(in reply to Report 1 on 2025-05-14)
Category:
answer to question
reply to objection

We appreciate the Referee's willingness to review our manuscript. But we respectfully disagree with Referee #1 overall evaluation for the following reasons. We have organized the Referee's remarks into the three outlined items for clarity:

  1. I believe that much of the calculations, except for minor errors (e.g. A1 to A5) and analysis is fine;
  2. However, I think using a digital simulator on an IBM machine may be a little heavy handed. The analysis could proceed with simple optical experiments on an optical bench, although it may somehow lose some oomphs and also some of the experiments may have already been demonstrated;
  3. So, aside from the usual arguments from the proponents and critiques of the original exeriment, what really is new aside from a somewhat trivial application of a quantum simulator. Overall, I think the paper is more suitable for a pedagogical journal. I do not recomment it for SciPost.

Regarding item 1: We respectfully ask the referee to specify the specific errors found in Eqs. A1 to A5. Despite conducting a comprehensive review ourselves, we were unable to detect any mistakes in these equations.

Regarding item 2: Although we make it clear in the manuscript that the use of the formalism of Mohan et al. is essential only for Pessoa Júnior's setup, it is important to point out that not even Unruh's experiment has been carried out using optical devices to date, at least to our knowledge. The reason behind this is precisely the experimental difficulty in an optical bench of even running the usual Mach-Zehnder interferometer (MZI), which are preferably performed in analog versions such as the Sagnac interferometer. Although the modified version of the Unruh experiment is feasible using optical instruments, such as the experiment performed in Ref.~[1], Pessoa Júnior's experiment is much more challenging, and, as far as we know, there are no experiments that resemble this setup. It is also worth mentioning that digital simulations can be extended to even more complicated experimental setups, with a larger quantity of optical devices and higher occupation numbers, whose implementations (Ref.~[2]) are difficult and relatively novel in the field.

Regarding item 3: Our article is completely built around three points: (i) extending and employing the framework established by Mohan et al. to (ii) conduct a thorough examination of two comparable versions of Afshar's experiment: a modified version of Unruh's experiment and Pessoa Júnior's experiment, and (iii) examining these experiments with regard to the newly proposed quantum complementarity principle. All of these points are new in the literature. Our research is based on the recent methodologies outlined by Mohan et al. . So, we are confident that our work has the relevance and novelty needed for justify its publication in SciPost.

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