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Scalar subleading soft theorems from an infinite tower of charges
by Matías Briceño, Hernán A. González, Alfredo Pérez
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| Authors (as registered SciPost users): | Hernán González |
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| Preprint Link: | scipost_202506_00009v1 (pdf) |
| Date submitted: | June 5, 2025, 2:50 a.m. |
| Submitted by: | Hernán González |
| Submitted to: | SciPost Physics |
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| Academic field: | Physics |
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| Approach: | Theoretical |
Abstract
We investigate the emergence of infinite-dimensional symmetries in the absence of gauge invariance by analyzing massless scalar theories. We construct an infinite tower of charges that arise from the subleading equations of motion at null infinity and are built from specific combinations of asymptotic field coefficients. Interestingly, these expressions are finite from the outset, requiring no holographic renormalization. By carefully analyzing the dynamics at spatial infinity, we show that this tower of surface integrals commutes with the S-matrix of the interacting model. As an application, we demonstrate that these symmetries lead to an infinite set of subleading soft relations, valid at leading order in a cubic interaction with massive scalar fields.
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Report #1 by Kevin Nguyen (Referee 1) on 2025-8-12 (Invited Report)
Strengths
2 - Solid computations
3 - Fills a gap on the topic of scalar soft theorems
4 - Opens a new pathway in an existing research direction, with clear potential for follow-up work
Weaknesses
2 - Ignores important recent developments regarding logarithms and infrared divergences, in relation with long range interactions and tail effects
Report
The main clarifications needed concern the assumptions and applicability of their results. On the one hand, their derivation of soft theorems in Section 2 assumes that amplitudes admit Laurent series representations with respect to the energy of the soft scalar particle. This is a strategy borrowed from [34] in the context of gluon and graviton amplitudes, by now known to be unwarranted. Indeed, the presence of logarithms of the energy has been established in [47]. This restricts the validity of [34] to tree-level diagrams, or equivalently, to leading order in the interaction coupling. While [47] concerns electromagnetism and gravity, the findings in [51] show that logarithms also appear in massless scalar theories, as expected in any theory with long-range interaction. This likely limitation finds its counterpart in the alternative derivation proposed in Sections 3 and 4. To start with, the computations in Section 3 are set up as if the theory was that of a massless scalar field sourced by some external current, while the equations motion of the Yukawa theory (3.48) are nonlinear coupled PDEs. In other words, the current J in (3.1) is a functional of the massless scalar through its backreaction on the massive scalar. This point is not at all discussed in the paper. I believe that the computations presented in Section 3 are in fact only valid to leading order in the interaction coupling, which amounts to the system described in (3.49)-(3.50). Beyond this leading order, we can expect that several assumptions made in Section 3 are invalid. For instance, log(u) terms appear in the expansion of the massless scalar field near future null infinity [51], invalidating (3.9). This in turn implies the existence of log(r) terms when expanding near past null infinity [37]. These logarithms would yield divergent charge expressions, a manifestation of infrared divergences in relation to tail effects. In addition, we can expect log(tau) terms in (3.34). All these aspects have been discussed thoroughly in the context of QED in [22,31]. (Note that [22] presented incorrect antipodal matching relations and a flawed derivation of the logarithmic soft photon theorem, which where first corrected in JHEP 10 (2020) 110 and JHEP 02 (2021) 82.)
While the remarks above suggest that the results of the paper only apply to tree-level amplitudes, they also suggest that they apply in any theory where tree-level is classically encoded by the system of equations (3.49)-(3.50). Indeed, nowhere in the computations does the form of the backreaction enter (the RHS of the second equation in (3.48)), explaining the simplicity of the results.
In addition, I believe that the authors have missed some modern references on the subject which, although they are set up for gravity, are precursor in a number of aspects relevant to this work. Together with [22,23] should be cited JHEP 09 (2022) 063 and JHEP 02 (2024) 120. The analysis of equations of motion near spatial infinity and their resolution in terms of Legendre functions, in relation with charge conservation across spatial infinity, have appeared in Class. Quantum Grav. 35 (2018) 074003 and SciPost Phys. 14 (2023) 014. In the latter, nonlinearities have been taken into account, which may inform the authors of a strategy to extend their results beyond tree-level (as an alternative to the methodology of [31]).
Requested changes
1 - I suggest that the authors rewrite the paper in a way that makes this restricted applicability transparent, or that they provide detailed proof that their results actually hold more generally, addressing the concerns stated above.
2 - Add references and discuss their relevance
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Author: Hernán González on 2025-09-05 [id 5790]
(in reply to Report 1 by Kevin Nguyen on 2025-08-12)We have addressed all the comments made by the referee in the resubmitted article. We hope that with these clarifications, the manuscript will now be suitable for publication in SciPost Physics.