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Topological fine structure of an energy band

by Hui Liu, Cosma Fulga, Emil J. Bergholtz, Janos Asboth

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Hui Liu
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Preprint Link: scipost_202511_00005v1  (pdf)
Date submitted: Nov. 4, 2025, 9:55 a.m.
Submitted by: Hui Liu
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
Specialties:
  • Condensed Matter Physics - Theory
  • Condensed Matter Physics - Computational
Approaches: Theoretical, Computational

Abstract

A band with a nonzero Chern number cannot be fully localized by weak disorder. There must remain at least one extended state, which ``carries the Chern number.'' Here we show that a trivial band can behave in a similar way. Instead of fully localizing, arbitrarily weak disorder leads to the emergence of two sets of extended states, positioned at two different energy intervals, which carry opposite Chern numbers. Thus, a single trivial band can show the same behavior as two separate Chern bands. We show that this property is predicted by a topological invariant called a ``localizer index.'' Even though the band as a whole is trivial as far as the Chern number is concerned, the localizer index allows access to a topological fine structure. This index changes as a function of energy within the bandwidth of the trivial band, causing nontrivial extended states to appear as soon as disorder is introduced. Our work points to a previously overlooked manifestation of topology, which impacts the response of systems to impurities beyond the information included in conventional topological invariants.

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Report #2 by Anonymous (Referee 2) on 2025-12-20 (Invited Report)

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By a numerical case study of a 3-band model depending on one external parameter v, the paper shows that a topologically non-trivial band can undergo a topological phase transition within the band which leads to two extended states which are stable under disordered perturbations (no Anderson localization). The authors provide convincing numerical evidence based on the gap and index of the spectral localizer. Both the observation and the argument are interesting and worth publishing. However, before giving a definite positive recommendation, I suggest that the authors take the following comments into account and answer the questions at appropriate places in the draft.

1) It seems like the localizer gap is closed at E=0 for all v, see Fig 3(b). Can the authors explain why this is so?

2) On the same point: the authors claim that there are no delocalized states near E=0 as there is no change in the index Q. Is there further proof of numerical proof of this? Fig 2(b2) and (c2) seem to indicate that up to W=0 there may be delocalization.

3) Is Fig 3 done entirely at disorder W=0, or weak disorder? I could not find any information on this, at least in the caption. If it is at W=0, did the authors check that the outcome is similar for small W?

4) in the central part of Fig 3(b), is it correct to state that this splitting at v=3.3 is the inverse of merging in Fig 1(a) in the variable W, namely emergence instead of annihilation of a delocalized "Landau-band"?

5) The authors write: "we have checked that these extended states appear to persist for any disorder strength W, no matter how small." I don't understand this comment? At no disorder, there are extended states, right? Maybe the authors can clarify.

6) The authors should also update the references [25,26,42,50], all of which have likely appeared in refereed journals.

7) The authors introduce the new terminology "topological fine structure". It should be explained early on and as precisely as possible what this means.

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Report #1 by Luka Trifunovic (Referee 1) on 2025-12-16 (Invited Report)

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In this manuscript, the authors study 'topological fine structure' which is revealed by introducing a weak disorder, whereupon, in two-dimensional class A systems, all states apart from states at isolated energies E_i localize. The authors study a toy model that exhibits a rather unusual evolution of its 'fine structure', E_i, with increasing disorder strength. Furthermore, the authors propose to compute the values E_i using the method of spectral localizer.

The manuscript contains interesting results and I recommend it for publication after addressing the comments below.

1) A reader would benefit if the statements in the introduction are sharpened. In particular, Anderson localization theory predicts only insulating phase in 2d class A (as opposed to insulating and metallic phases in the same class in 3d). After the discovery of quantum Hall effect, it became clear that not all insulators are the same, hence, it is possible to have insulator-to-(topological) insulator transition. Precisely at this transition, the critical states appear, which are the states labelled "Extended states" on Fig. 1. In the thermodynamic limit, these states sit at isolated energies E_i. At each E_i there are infinitely many critical states: the number of critical states increases with the system size as determined by the critical exponent of the mentioned insulator-to-insulator transition.

I am puzzled by the statement that "trivial bands are expected to fully localize even for infinitesimal disorder" - I do not think such expectation exists in the community. In fact, it is easy to construct a counter-example; Consider a two-dimensional Z2 topological insulator with additional spin rotation symmetry. Upon adding a weak disorder that respects spin rotation symmetry, one finds below the Fermi level both spin-up and spin-down critical states which carry the opposite Chern numbers. If we apply a Zeeman field, the energies of these critical states will split by \Delta_Z. Finally, addition of a most general class-A disorder of strength W (which break spin rotation symmetry) cannot make the critical states disappear as long as W/\Delta_Z is small. In fact, this model has been studied in PhysRevB.85.075115.

In my opinion, the statement that a band with zero Chern number can have a 'topological fine structure' is neither new nor surprising. On other hand, the way the energies E_i of the critical states move with increasing disorder (Fig. 1b), for the model proposed in this manuscript, is rather surprising. Additionally, the idea to use the spectral localizer to numerically determine E_i is novel to the best of my knowledge.

2) Determining the 'topological fine structure' (in class A and 2d) boils down to finding the energies of the critical states E_i for a weak disorder. One can either try to compute E_i by including disorder (expensive) or by doing calculation on the clean system (cheap).

The disordered-system calculation can be done by computing the transmission in a quasi-1d geometry (Kramer-MacKinnon method) or by performing a multifractal analysis. In both cases, one would obtain the results of the same quality (or better) as in Fig. 3b, albeit at a much higher computational and implementation cost.

When it comes to calculation on the clean system there are the two following options:

a) The method proposed in Annals of Physics, 456, 169258, which tells that E_i can be computed by solving the equation:

\sigma_xy^{int}(E_i)=(2*i+1)/2,

where \sigma_xy^{int} is intrinsic contributions to the anomalous Hall conductivity (i.e., an integral of the Berry curvature of the clean system).

The downside of this approach is that the Berry curvature (and thus the intrinsic contributions to the anomalous Hall conductivity) depends on the choice of atomic orbitals of the tight-binding model. In particular, changing the positions of the atomic orbitals within the unit cells may give different solutions for E_i. Hence, after considering all possible positions of the atomic orbitals, this method gives energy windows for each E_i rather than isolated energies.

b) The approach proposed in this manuscript seems to face similar challenges as the above approach. The definition of the spectral localizer explicitly depends on the position operators X and Y. Moving atomic orbitals amounts to changing the diagonal elements of these two operators. For this reason, I expect that the solutions of the equation (g_L is localizer gap)

g_L(E)=0

are intervals in energies rather than isolated energies. In fact, the model studied in the recent preprint confirms this expectation (Fig. 4 in arXiv:2505.09677). Perhaps having such a narrow estimate for E_i is rather exception than a rule?

In any case, a reader would benefit if the authors give a few remarks on how their approach compares to the other approaches.

3) Given the 'topological fine structure' of a model, E_i, it would be interesting to know how these energies evolve and annihilate with increasing disorder W. My expectation is that the critical states closest in energy (and with the opposite topological charges) annihilate first. This expectation does not seem to hold for the model considered in this manuscript. On the other hand, the Fig. 3b looks suspiciously symmetric with respect to E=0 which is not to be expected in class A. Could it be that this unusual behavior of E_i(W) is a consequence of some accidental statistical symmetry present in the model?

4) There is a typo in Fig. 3b, the top most label should read Q=0 instead of Q=-1.

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