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Growth of the Wang-Casati-Prosen counter in an integrable billiards

by Z. Hwang, C. A. Marx, J. Seaward, S. Jitomirskaya, M. Olshanii

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Authors (as registered SciPost users): Maxim Olshanii
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Preprint Link: scipost_202108_00061v1  (pdf)
Date submitted: 2021-08-25 07:59
Submitted by: Olshanii, Maxim
Submitted to: SciPost Physics
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Academic field: Physics
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Approaches: Theoretical, Computational


This work is motivated by an article by Wang, Casati, and Prosen [Phys. Rev. E vol.~89, 042918 (2014)] devoted to a study of ergodicity in two-dimensional irrational right-triangular billiards. Numerical results presented there suggest that these billiards are generally not ergodic. However, they become ergodic when the billiard angle is equal to $\pi$ times a Liouvillian irrational, a class of numbers with properties lying in between irrational and rational. In particular, Wang et al.\ study a special integer counter that reflects the irrational contribution to the velocity orientation; they conjecture that this counter is localized in the generic case, but grows in the Liouvillian case. We propose a generalization of the Wang-Casati-Prosen counter for rational billiards. We show that in the case of a $\ang{45} \!\! : \!\ang{45} \!\! : \! \ang{90}$ billiards, the counter grows indefinitely, consistent with the Liouvillian scenario suggested by Wang et al.

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Anonymous Report 2 on 2022-6-12 (Contributed Report)

  • Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:scipost_202108_00061v1, delivered 2022-06-12, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.5228




presentation, accessibility


The paper addresses a seemingly important problem of the properties of billiards in polygons (triangles), and whether ergodicity is or not attained depending on the arithmetic properties of the angles of the billiard. While the contribution is mathematically rigorous, and since the journal covers a wide spectrum of subjects, the paper deserves to be self-contained and accessible to non-specialists. I would suggest therefore that the authors start with a more thorough introduction, and maybe move the chapter named “Motivation” to the beginning. A more intuitive presentation of the methods used (with e.g. some extra figures) may help a quicker access to the results.

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Author:  Maxim Olshanii  on 2022-12-21  [id 3166]

(in reply to Report 2 on 2022-06-12)
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We thank the Referee 2 for s/his remarks. Following the Referee 1 and Referee 2 suggestions, we added a "Motivation" section, expanded/cleared the introduction, and restructured the presentation.

Anonymous Report 1 on 2022-3-29 (Invited Report)

  • Cite as: Anonymous, Report on arXiv:scipost_202108_00061v1, delivered 2022-03-29, doi: 10.21468/SciPost.Report.4805


Understanding the dynamcal and statistical properties of linearly unstable, parabolic maps and of billiards in polygons is a very important task. So far there are several numerical works on this subject and few rigourous mathematical results. On the other hand, numerical analysis is very delicate and mahematical analysis seems to be very hard. The present manuscript gives a rigourous contribution to this problem.


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Author:  Maxim Olshanii  on 2022-04-21  [id 2404]

(in reply to Report 1 on 2022-03-29)

We are grateful to the Referee for s/his assessment of our manuscript and s/his warm words.

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